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#ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. And they were his children too, not just shannons. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. Meanwhile, Chris began his affair with Nichol Kessinger, a woman he worked with, telling her he was separated. I cant come back like this. For anyone who questions if he did, think about losing your child. I love this man! Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. It is how you build one. in the future. But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. I mean think about she knew that NO MAN would put up with her except Chris. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. Its 2018, but in many families there is still shame associated with being a victim of domestic violence, and survivors often try to put a good face on the relationship, said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about . He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. Shanann Watts and the girls had gone to visit her . Interesting points made here. In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. Your mind (even if it constantly runs in the background) will always be consumed with the what-ifs and know that you have this deep desire for something more and when you find someone that is of the same mindset it is really hard to switch gears and go back to what you know isnt cutting it anymore (unfortunately/unfortunate choice of words as I completely respect the sanctity of marriage and strong support SW) but I believe he just got trapped and wanted a quick way out. You spoil us with love an attention! , but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. Just Published! I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. The irony is in exactly the same way he didnt feel acknowledged, towards the very end she complained that he hadnt acknowledged her or their unborn child. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Just Published! In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. Required fields are marked *. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. It may or may not tell the tale of whats really going on, she said. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. Not a popular opinion. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" How did things change so quickly? For those who may be experiencing intimate partner violence from an abuser and were not certain that is the case here they are able to fit into a societal norm, the perfect family.. 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On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. I think he did premeditate this, even if it was just in his mind. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. It seemed choreographed. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. He comes across as predatory and basic. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. The juxtaposition of Shananns seemingly idyllic life and its violent end has stunned the public and attracted widespread media attention. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. She said he had an empty head, forget everything. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. I like nice things and having nice experiences. The fact that the self-help book was put in the trash and the wedding ring left on the bedside table arent incidental. Before drilling further into this question, we need to be clear about the difference between divorce and separation. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. They withdraw and distance themselves. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. Part of HuffPost Crime. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. She didnt break him. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. It was clear from the messages that Shanann's marriage was in crisis, Chris was at best apathetic about the new baby, the couple had serious financial problems, and Shanann had begun to suspect Chris was cheating on her. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. I . Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. Chris was released with pending legal proceedings after he posted $750,000 on December 1. The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. I just thank God he took the right Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. I agree on all counts. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, this link [an extended version of the clip above], the best thing that has ever happened to her, https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/. Chris said when he met Nicole, he was not used to being treated with respect and having someone interested in what he thought. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children, but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . Yet experts in domestic violence say its impossible to know what happens behind closed doors, and social media accounts can act as a tool to hide turmoil in the home. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. The murder of Shanann Watts and her children has reentered the public consciousness thanks to Netflix. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. He wants to fade into the background. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Like a mercy killing. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. To her credit she was, and she did. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? I need you to meet me halfway. After killing Shanann, he drove her body to an oil drilling site where he worked, taking daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with him. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. Thank you for this. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. Only parents can say that. Its not a nice feeling. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. Shan'ann thought - or hoped - the marriage was stuttering slightly. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. You feel like youre expendable. And her house that everyone is talking about? But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. I personally would not have gone on that AZ trip knowing there is something wrong unless we had come to an impasse and had agreed to disagree or agreed to either separate or try and see how things go (which is what the speculation and her texts show). In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. Most mass shootings in the U.S. are also connected to domestic violence. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. He admitted to that. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. thats all she cared about period. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. Watts said he strangled Shanann in their bed after he said she told her their marriage was over and she said he would never see their children again. He never ever portrayed anything when it came to those poor little girls. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . Cheating is their hallmark. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. Just so sad. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. Does anyone one have photos of it? The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. Then he drove her body to a job site at the oil company where he worked. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. According to the lawyer, after an argument over divorce, Chris strangled Shanann to death. I think that was the form her OCD took. In an . Though the Watts family had financial struggles, they also had a . IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! She was the same way with her 1st husband. She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. That same month Shanann and her daughters flew to North Carolina for six weeks to visit family, per Pop Sugar. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. Shanann went on a business trip to Arizona and returned on August 13, 2018, at about 1:48 in the morning; her friend and colleague Nickole Utoft Atkinson had offered to drop her to her home from the airport. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. ET. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. On June 11 . Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. American Murder provides insight into Shanann & Chris's marriage, as well as their struggles with communication & parenting. Between his mother controling him all thru his years growing up and then Shanann taking control, a person can only take so much. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? 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